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	<description>Adventures in car-light living from the Land of Urban Sprawl</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Right Way by David Chase</title>
		<link>http://fouronaquarter.com/2010/03/the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-377</link>
		<dc:creator>David Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS note that since a bicycle is not a motor vehicle, you can blast your Air Zound all you want.  No limits on your gratuitous noise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS note that since a bicycle is not a motor vehicle, you can blast your Air Zound all you want.  No limits on your gratuitous noise.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Right Way by David Chase</title>
		<link>http://fouronaquarter.com/2010/03/the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-376</link>
		<dc:creator>David Chase</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jul 2010 23:08:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not true in every state, but in Florida, that woman who honked at you was breaking the law.

316.271  Horns and warning devices.
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(3) The driver of a motor vehicle shall, WHEN REASONABLY NECESSARY TO ENSURE SAFE OPERATION, give audible warning with his or her horn, but SHALL NOT OTHERWISE USE SUCH HORN WHEN UPON A HIGHWAY.

(Capital letters mine, used where reasonably necessary for safe operation of this blog comment.)

In any interaction with motorists, I think I would take the legal offensive, or say nothing at all.  Don&#039;t bother defending your rights, point out that they are breaking the law by honking at you.  Read them the number.  Bonus if you can convince your local police department to put some unmarked cops on unmarked bikes to enforce that law.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not true in every state, but in Florida, that woman who honked at you was breaking the law.</p>
<p>316.271  Horns and warning devices.<br />
&#8230;<br />
(3) The driver of a motor vehicle shall, WHEN REASONABLY NECESSARY TO ENSURE SAFE OPERATION, give audible warning with his or her horn, but SHALL NOT OTHERWISE USE SUCH HORN WHEN UPON A HIGHWAY.</p>
<p>(Capital letters mine, used where reasonably necessary for safe operation of this blog comment.)</p>
<p>In any interaction with motorists, I think I would take the legal offensive, or say nothing at all.  Don&#8217;t bother defending your rights, point out that they are breaking the law by honking at you.  Read them the number.  Bonus if you can convince your local police department to put some unmarked cops on unmarked bikes to enforce that law.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Right Way by Fergie348</title>
		<link>http://fouronaquarter.com/2010/03/the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-375</link>
		<dc:creator>Fergie348</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with you all the way - it&#039;s hard to function properly when you&#039;re furious.  A couple of points:

Modern cars have extremely loud horns because modern cars have very good acoustical baffling in their passenger compartments.  There is no &#039;inside voice&#039; for car horns.  It scares the crap out of me every time someone honks, even if they intend to be helpful.

You have a right to the lane.  That said, when I&#039;m riding my bike and I hear someone driving up behind me I usually pull to the side and wave them by.  It&#039;s almost always appreciated, especially on winding roads where there&#039;s nowhere to pass safely.

There is no real answer in education or tolerance or any of that.  The real answer is expensive and will take a long time to come to fruition.  The truth is that our road networks have been built for cars, period.  Especially in the newer communities your are expected to drive or walk.  Bicycles are a third way, one which most of our transportation planners have never thought about seriously.  That must and will change, but it&#039;s gonna take a long time.  And it&#039;s gonna cost a lot of money, so that will make it take even longer.

I&#039;m glad you&#039;re putting your experiences out there.  It&#039;s great what you&#039;re doing and it&#039;s the only way to effect change over the long term.  Family by family, we can and we will change our communities.  Bicycling for transportation is here to stay; we have to keep reminding everyone that we belong and that we are the answer to a lot of vexing questions that plague out modern lives.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you all the way &#8211; it&#8217;s hard to function properly when you&#8217;re furious.  A couple of points:</p>
<p>Modern cars have extremely loud horns because modern cars have very good acoustical baffling in their passenger compartments.  There is no &#8216;inside voice&#8217; for car horns.  It scares the crap out of me every time someone honks, even if they intend to be helpful.</p>
<p>You have a right to the lane.  That said, when I&#8217;m riding my bike and I hear someone driving up behind me I usually pull to the side and wave them by.  It&#8217;s almost always appreciated, especially on winding roads where there&#8217;s nowhere to pass safely.</p>
<p>There is no real answer in education or tolerance or any of that.  The real answer is expensive and will take a long time to come to fruition.  The truth is that our road networks have been built for cars, period.  Especially in the newer communities your are expected to drive or walk.  Bicycles are a third way, one which most of our transportation planners have never thought about seriously.  That must and will change, but it&#8217;s gonna take a long time.  And it&#8217;s gonna cost a lot of money, so that will make it take even longer.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you&#8217;re putting your experiences out there.  It&#8217;s great what you&#8217;re doing and it&#8217;s the only way to effect change over the long term.  Family by family, we can and we will change our communities.  Bicycling for transportation is here to stay; we have to keep reminding everyone that we belong and that we are the answer to a lot of vexing questions that plague out modern lives.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Right Way by John Schubert</title>
		<link>http://fouronaquarter.com/2010/03/the-right-way/comment-page-1/#comment-374</link>
		<dc:creator>John Schubert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m even later than Dottie.  Y&#039;all have described things well:  don&#039;t try to educate a jerk.  One tactic to baffle jerks:  &quot;Hi, Chris -- see you at the church supper!&quot;  You get a laugh out of the fact that you&#039;ve diffused their anger by saying something that just puzzles them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m even later than Dottie.  Y&#8217;all have described things well:  don&#8217;t try to educate a jerk.  One tactic to baffle jerks:  &#8220;Hi, Chris &#8212; see you at the church supper!&#8221;  You get a laugh out of the fact that you&#8217;ve diffused their anger by saying something that just puzzles them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Does it wear off? by Slowerlq</title>
		<link>http://fouronaquarter.com/2009/12/does-it-wear-off/comment-page-1/#comment-372</link>
		<dc:creator>Slowerlq</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jul 2010 17:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Спасибо автору, интересная новость.
P.S. Кто подскажет, где мне найти &lt;a href=&quot;http://torrent-kombo.ru/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;торрент трекер без регистрации&lt;/a&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Спасибо автору, интересная новость.<br />
P.S. Кто подскажет, где мне найти <a href="http://torrent-kombo.ru/" rel="nofollow">торрент трекер без регистрации</a>?</p>
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		<title>Comment on This should be interesting by Kitzzy</title>
		<link>http://fouronaquarter.com/2009/11/this-should-be-interesting/comment-page-1/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>Kitzzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just noticed this reply as I am re-reading these posts because we are attempting it this weekend. 

I guess our route is not entirely on the trail, but it is pretty close minus a few miles on roads to connect from one trail to the other. We took the Cady Way Trail to Cross Seminole Trail to Wekiva Trail.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just noticed this reply as I am re-reading these posts because we are attempting it this weekend. </p>
<p>I guess our route is not entirely on the trail, but it is pretty close minus a few miles on roads to connect from one trail to the other. We took the Cady Way Trail to Cross Seminole Trail to Wekiva Trail.</p>
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		<title>Comment on My Radish is like the Volvo of Bikes by My Radish is like the Volvo of Bikes</title>
		<link>http://fouronaquarter.com/2009/11/my-radish-is-like-the-volvo-of-bikes/comment-page-1/#comment-369</link>
		<dc:creator>My Radish is like the Volvo of Bikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 04:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Originally published November 15, 2009 on 4onaQuarter [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on The Right Way by Dottie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dottie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:28:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m way late to the conversation, but I know exactly how you feel.  I&#039;ve also ended some rides by crying, usually not until I arrive at my garage and then the dam breaks.  Some people are simply horrible, but that knowledge doesn&#039;t make it any easier to deal with them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m way late to the conversation, but I know exactly how you feel.  I&#8217;ve also ended some rides by crying, usually not until I arrive at my garage and then the dam breaks.  Some people are simply horrible, but that knowledge doesn&#8217;t make it any easier to deal with them.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 May 2010 17:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too am an Xtracyclist and less-driving-enthusiast.  I am also a professional riding instructor with ponies and horses, so I am hoping that when you accomplish your goal that you will, indeed, buy your daughters ponies!  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too am an Xtracyclist and less-driving-enthusiast.  I am also a professional riding instructor with ponies and horses, so I am hoping that when you accomplish your goal that you will, indeed, buy your daughters ponies!  <img src='http://fouronaquarter.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on I can&#039;t believe I almost missed it. by Clarence Tincher</title>
		<link>http://fouronaquarter.com/2009/11/i-cant-believe-i-almost-missed-it/comment-page-1/#comment-337</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Tincher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 07:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow, awesome post.Thanks Again. Really Cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow, awesome post.Thanks Again. Really Cool.</p>
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